ISO29119 – Test standard or misguided path?
At CAST 2014 James Christie gave a presentation called: “Standards - Promoting quality or restricting competition?”. James argued that standards are produced by bodies with a commercial interest in seeing them adopted. He analysed the economic forces behind the creation of standards. They should be viewed as optional methods that companies can buy or reject as they see fit. Selling them as standards distorts the market by creating the impression amongst senior managers, lawyers and regulators that there is no valid, responsible alternative. James explained why the auditors and compliance professions are not lined up on the side of the standards lobby. Testers must speak out following the Healthcare.gov website fiasco. This debate is not an academic contest between rival schools of thought. It’s a commercial struggle, and James provided compelling arguments against standards.
During open season Karen Johnson showed a red card and suggested that people should DO something. She argued since it was the start of the conference and many of the attendees seemed to be against certifications and standards that perhaps they could “do something” that would make an impact.
This resulted in two initiatives: a [petition}(https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/stop29119){:target=”_blank”} made by ISST (International Society for Software Testing (see info frame below) and a professional Tester’s manifesto made by Karen (helped by Iain McCowatt, Fiona Charles and James Christie). During the conference both James and Karen where interviewed by CAST Live: Interview with Karen & Interview with James.
Update 24/9/2019: The ISST was founded to advocate for more common sense in testing (see founding message here, but doesn't exist anymore. The website https://www.commonsensetesting.org/ is bought by another agent and has unrelated stuff on it now). For a while there was a website https://professionaltestersmanifesto.org/ but this website is gone too. You can find the manifesto, which I think is still important, here: [professional Tester's manifesto](https://karennicolejohnson.com/2014/08/my-thoughts-on-testing-certifications/){:target="_blank"}.
Update 11/9/2025: some of the blogs and sites have disappeared. There were many more back in 2014. I have deleted all death links
This kicked off a whole lot of blog posts from testers around the world. This page shows a collection of all these blog posts. Please let me know if I missed one.
Petition and manifesto
The standard
- ISO / ICE / IEEE 29119 Software Testing
 - Wikipedia - ISO/IEC 29119
 - The standard explained: The Art of Software Testing Standards - Jon Hagar
 - White paper: The New International Software Testing Standards - Stuart Reid
 
Wanna know who are writing this standard? Read this: Dramatis Personae - Michael Bolton
Blogs supporting the petition
- ISO 29119: Why it is Dangerous to the Software Testing Community - James Christie
 - “Software testers balk at ISO 29119 standards proposal” – my Infoworld.com interview - James Christie
 - ISO – the dog that hasn’t barked - James Christie
 - Cynefin, testing & auditing - James Christie
 - ISO 29119 and “best practice”; a confused mess - James Christie
 - ISO 29119 Roundtable Discussion - Part I - Part 2 - Part 3
 - My Thoughts on Testing Certifications - Karen Johnson
 - The Petition to Stop ISO 29119 - Keith Klain
 - Please sign the Petition to Stop ISO 29119 - Cem Kaner
 - How Not To Standardize Testing (ISO 29119) - James Bach
 - Rising Against the Rent-Seekers - Michael Bolton
 - An Example of Progress in the Drafting of ISO 29119 - Michael Bolton
 - Frequently-Asked Questions About the 29119 Controversy - Michael Bolton
 - A Response to Anne Mette Hass - Michael Bolton
 - Why I oppose adoption of ISO 29119 - Fiona Charles
 - On ISO 29119 Content - Rikard Edgren
 - ISO 29119 Questions: Part 1 - Part 2 - Simon Morley
 - An open letter to the President of the International Organization for Standardization about ISO 29119 - Pradeep Soundararajan
 - In Defence of Book Burning - Adam Howard
 - Why Testers Are Losing The ISO 29119 Battle - Gil Zilberfeld
 - Joining the fray on ISO 29119 - Joep Schuurkes
 - I am a professional tester – are you? - Maria Kedemo
 - On Auditing, Standards, And Iso 29119 - Markus Gärtner
 - ISO 29119 one standard to rule them all? - Scott Dickie
 - Why I am signing the petition to stop ISO 29119 - Amy
 - Have you signed the petition to stop ISO 29119? - Qxf2
 - The ISO29119 debate - Huib Schoots
 - Pieces of paper don’t change reality … Stop 29119 - Mike Talks
 - Alice and the Cheshire Cat talk ISO 29119 - Mike Talks
 - ISO 29119 – A standard in name only - Brian Osman
 - How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love ISO 29119 - Matt Heusser
 - Do we have something else than ISO29119? - Simon “Peter” Schrijver
 - The Schneider Trophy - Jokin Aspiazu
 - The Weasel Returns - Alan Page
 - ISO 29119 – Testers! Don’t Buy Into It! - Jeff Nymann
 - ISO29119 - And its possible future - Björn Petersson
 - The Procrustean Bed of ISO29119 - Ash Winters
 - What does the audit profession have to say about testing standards? - James Christie
 - A commercial body of Knowledge - Jesper Ottosen
 - In consideration of ISO 29119 - JCD
 - Lessons Learned on Standardisation at a Finnish Standards Meeting - Maaret Pyhäjärvi
 - An Open Letter to Professional Tester Magazine - John Stevenson
 
“Anti” petition & pro ISO29119
- Eine reichlich späte Petition gegen Teststandard ISO 29119 (German) - Alexander Neumann
 - Open Letter to the Testing Community (re: ISO 29119 conflict) - Freddy Vega
 - ISO 29119: Red tape or finish line tape - Menonrajendra
 - New Software Testing Standards – ISO/IEC/IEEE 29119 - Jagannadha Swamy Tata
 
Undecided
- What is an Appropriate Software Testing Standard? - Jeff Lucas
 - Sad but true - Nathalie Rooseboom de Vries van Delft
 - Aangenaam kennis te maken: ISO29119 (Dutch) - Nathalie Rooseboom de Vries van Delft
 
Mentions on (news) sites
- The software testing schism
 - Invisible gorillas in the mist
 - Standard väcker ont blod
 - ISO 29119 Draws the Ire of Testers in uTest Community
 - Can ISO 29119 Software Testing “Standard” Really Be a Standard?
 - Reaction to Proposed Software Testing Standard
 
Discussions
- Test Huddle: The Core of Testing – Dynamic Testing Process – According to ISO 29119
 - Test Huddle: ISO #29119 Software Testing Standards
 - Test Huddle: Testing Standards and Certifications — Do We Need Them?
 
Results of the Step-in Forum Testers’ Arena September Contest
- ISO 29119 - Impact on Software Testing
 - A Red flag for ISO: 29119
 - Why is ISO 29119 bad for Software Testing?
 - Can software testing be confined to a Standard (ISO 29119)?
 - Why ISO29119 Standard is bad for Testing
 - Blogspot on ISO 29119
 - Hot Cold Topic “Standards” : Building the Stand - Part 1 - Part 2 - Part 3 - Part 4
 - Why not ISO 29119 Software Testing standard
 
Older blogs
- Testing standards? Can we do better? - James Christie
 - This could easily be the testing industry - James Christie
 - ISO 29119 the new software testing standard – what about it? - James Christie
 - ISO 29119 a benevolent start - Rikard Edgren
 - Common Languages Ain’t So Common - Michael Bolton
 - Maturity Models Have It Backwards - Michael Bolton
 - xMMwhy - Michael Bolton
 - After the Disaster - Robert Martin
 
Videos
- Anne Mette Hass webinar: The Core of Testing – Dynamic Testing Process – According to ISO 29119
 - James Christie CAST 2014 Talk: Standards – promoting quality or restricting competition?
 - Karen N Johnson on “CAST Live” - Standards and Certifications
 - James Christie on “CAST Live” - Software Testing Standards
 - Stuart Reid - EuroStar Webinar “ISO 29119 - the new set of international standards on software testing”
 
Slides
- James Christie - Standards - promoting quality or restricting competition?
 - Michael Bolton - Standards and Deviations: The Role of Routine in Testing
 
